The superb card at Flemington tomorrow deserves a bit of extra attention, so for the first of the staying classics, a detailed analysis of the pedigrees is warranted.
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Victoria Derby Preview
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Victoria Derby Preview
By Geoff Mcmurray
Overview
The Victoria Derby is a real test of stamina for 3yo’s.
The question is which horses have the class and aptitude to run a strong 2500m.
That’s the question we need to answer to help make an informed investment
decision.
Pedigree
analysis allows you to make an assessment of any horse’s
inherited racing ability and speed profile which provides an insight
as to its optimal racing distance.
What is pedigree analysis?
In simple terms, pedigree analysis is the study of any
given horse’s ancestors for patterns of inheritance that have contributed to
the horses racing ability (or predicated racing ability) both in terms of
quality and in terms of preferred distance.
In order to view a horses ancestors I use a software
program named TesioPower. The software enables you to view a horse’s pedigree
back multiple generations.
There are a number of factors I analyse in determining
a horse’s inherited racing ability.
1.
Inbreeding – this is the duplication of
successful ancestors (either male or female) in a pedigree within the 4th
generation.
2.
Line Breeding – this is the duplication
of successful ancestors (either male or female) in a pedigree in the 5th
generation and beyond.
3.
Rasmussen Factor – this is a special
condition where a successful female ancestor is duplicated in a pedigree
through two (or more) different offspring.
Inherited Racing Ability
Once I have analysed a pedigree, I give it a rating
based upon what I believe its inherited racing ability is. The below table
provides meanings in relation to the ratings assigned.
Pedigree Rating
|
Pedigree Rating Definition
|
Description
|
AAA
|
Superior inherited genetic racing ability
|
Inherited genetic ability that aligns to Group 1
level racing
|
A
|
Excellent inherited genetic racing ability
|
Inherited genetic ability that aligns to Group or
Listed level racing
|
B
|
Good inherited genetic racing ability
|
Inherited genetic ability that aligns to
Metropolitan level racing
|
C
|
Average inherited genetic racing ability
|
Inherited genetic ability that aligns to Provincial
level racing
|
D
|
Below average inherited genetic racing ability
|
Inherited genetic ability that aligns to Country
level racing
|
Speed Profile
Using the TesioPower pedigree software a speed profile
for any pedigree can be obtained. That speed profile is based on presence of ‘Chefs
de Race’ (about 200 successful stallions worldwide) that are present within the
first 4 generations of any horse’s pedigree.
Points are assigned across five aptitudes – Brilliant, Intermediate, Classic, Solid and Professional. The ‘Brilliant’
and ‘Intermediate’ aptitudes basically identify a preference for shorter
distances (up to a mile) with ‘Classic’, ’Solid’ and ‘Professional’ aptitudes identifying
a preference for longer distance races.
So let’s analyse this year’s Derby field …..
2017 Victoria Derby
1 – Ace High (B
grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
5.5
|
3.5
|
20
|
5
|
1
|
By High Chaparral (champion English stayer and
stallion) with dam by champion racehorse and sire in Redoute’s Choice. Distance
is not going to be an issue for the favourite on pedigree.
2 – Tangled (B
grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
7
|
4
|
10
|
0.5
|
2.5
|
By champion Australian sprinter and leading sire
Snitzel. From that would seem a distance risk. From a middle distance stakes
winning mare by Shinko King who was a G1 sprinter in Japan. Has some stamina in
his female family but is clearly a distance risk on his speed profile rating.
3 – Astoria (A
grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
2.5
|
6.5
|
16
|
3
|
0
|
By Medaglia D’Oro a multiple Grade 1 winner in the US
and champion sire. Dam by Ad Valorem (G1 miler in the UK) from a stout
Australasian female family. Can’t see the 2500m being an issue on pedigree.
4 – Eshtiraak
(B grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
9.5
|
8
|
12.5
|
0
|
0
|
By Street Cry a multiple G1 winner and from a Flying
Spur mare which would make you think speed. This is backed up by the speed
profile that says a mile suits best and very unlikely to get much further. The
increase to 2500m doesn’t suit Eshtiraak.
5 – Main Stage
(C grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
4
|
3
|
11
|
3
|
2
|
By Reliable Man (multiple G1 winner at 2000m) and dam
by Prized a multiple G1 winner over 2400m. The speed profile backs this up
suggesting a trip of 2000m and beyond should suit.
6 – Sully (A
grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
1.5
|
5.5
|
10.5
|
2.5
|
1
|
Another one by Reliable Man this time from a Casual
Lies (two time Listed winner over 1700m in the US) mare. Female family has some
staying depth a few generations back. Speed profile suggests 2500m won’t be an issue.
7 – Weather
With You (AAA grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
5
|
6.5
|
17
|
2
|
2
|
By Teofilo a G1 winning 2yo but has sired G1 winners
up to 2400m. From a Rock of Gibraltar mare whose female family is littered with
Stakes winning stayers. No issues getting out to 2000m and beyond on his speed
profile.
8 – Aberro (C
grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
8
|
7.5
|
9
|
0.5
|
0
|
By All Too Hard champion Australian 2yo.
Dam by Giant’s Causeway (multiple G1 winner at 2000m and beyond) but speed
profile says a mile to 2000m would see him out. Massive distance risk.
9 – Pissaro
(AAA grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
2.5
|
1.5
|
15
|
5.5
|
2.5
|
From the first crop of Pierro (champion Australian
2yo) who himself has a real stayers female pedigree. Dam by Galileo so stamina
not lacking here. Speed profile says will just be getting warm at the end of
2500m.
10 – Justice
Faith (C grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
6.5
|
4.5
|
9
|
1
|
0
|
By Hinchinbrook (G1 sprinter) from a Testa Rossa (G1
sprinter/miler) mare. Speed profile suggests up to a mile would be its optimum
distance. Huge distance risk.
11 – Ocean’s
Fourteen (A grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
3.5
|
5.5
|
18
|
0
|
2
|
By Ocean Park (G1 winner to 2000m) from a Stakes
winning dam in Ruud Van Slaats (by Van Nistelrooy). On speed profile shouldn’t
have too many worries getting out to the 2500m.
12 –
Greycliffe (A grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
4.5
|
4
|
12
|
3.5
|
1
|
By Tavistock who has already sired a VRC Derby winner
in Tarzino. Dam by champion New Zealand sire in Volksraad who can produce a
quality stayer. Bred to get out to distances longer than this.
13 – Johnny
Vinko (A grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
6
|
3.5
|
18
|
2.5
|
4
|
By Savabeel (by Zabeel) so no surprise plenty of
staying blood here. Dam by O’Reilly who has numerous G1 wining progeny out to
2400m. Speed profile suggests will relish getting out to the 2500m.
14 – Nothing
Too Hard (B grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
6
|
5.5
|
6.5
|
0
|
0
|
Another by champion Australian 2yo in All
Too Hard. Dam is from a champion US 2yo performer in Tale of the Cat. Speed
profile says should get a mile but any further would be a huge risk.
15 –
Rockarral (B grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
4
|
4
|
24
|
5
|
3
|
Another by High Chaparral (champion English
stayer and stallion) from a Fastnet Rock mare and grand dam by Zabeel. Bred to
run 4000m so getting the Derby trip won’t be an issue.
16 – Wolfe Tone
(A grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
4
|
2.5
|
17.5
|
3
|
4
|
By a very unfashionable stallion named Mettre En Jeu a
son of the great staying influence Montjeu. Dam by Zabeel. This is bred to get two
miles so absolutely no risk on his speed profile.
17 – Beachwood
(B grade pedigree rating)
Brilliant
|
Intermediate
|
Classic
|
Solid
|
Professional
|
12
|
4
|
17
|
0
|
2
|
Another by Ocean Park this time from a
Woodman mare. Comes from a very fast female family. On speed profile should get
2000m but is a real risk beyond that.
Analysis of pedigree ratings
Analysing the race from a pedigree rating perspective
we would want to consider those horses with either an AAA grade, A grade or B grade rating. That leaves us with Ace
High, Tangled, Astoria, Eshtiraak, Sully, Weather With You, Pissaro, Ocean’s
Fourteen, Greycliffe, Johnny Vinko, Nothing Too Hard, Rockarral, Wolfe Tone and
Beachwood in the mix.
Analysis of speed profiles
Analysing the race from a speed profile perspective,
you need to look for horses that have a genetic profile that suggests distance
won’t be an issue (that also meet the pedigree rating criteria). So that then leaves
us with Ace High, Astoria, Sully, Weather With You, Pissaro, Ocean’s Fourteen,
Greycliffe, Johnny Vinko, Rockarral, Wolfe Tone and Beachwood.
Analysis recent history – Victoria Derby winners
In the last 20 years, only three horses have been able
to win where they (a) have made it to the race in their 1st racing
preparation or (b) where they have not had at least two runs past a mile
leading into the race. Now those horses were Mahogany, Efficient and Elvstroem.
I’m pretty comfortable saying there isn’t any horse in this year’s rendition
that have their ability. That being the case, it leaves us with Ace High,
Astoria, Weather With You, Pissaro and Greycliffe.
Analysis of form – those that are left
Ace High – winner of the G1 Champion Stakes and G3
Gloaming Stakes at his past two runs. Mind you had perfect runs leading both
times. Draws soft, good trainer and jockey and will be right on pace.
Astoria – won the G3 Spring Stakes before no luck in transit
his past three starts. Draws barrier 1 with Damien Lane and a stable that’s
firing. Also meets a few better at the weights through the Listed Geelong
Classic.
Weather With You – good winner of the Listed Geelong Classic
at its last start. Little luck its two prior starts. Draws soft, Mark Zahra
rides and sure to be primed for this race by a master trainer of stayers.
Pissaro – may only have won a Benchmark 70 at
Morphetville but has had little luck its past two starts including in the G2
Vase at Mooney Valley last Saturday. Bred to be an out and out stayer so the
distance will really suit. Noel Callow and Robbie Laing also have a great
association when combining in any race.
Greycliffe – reckon might be a really progressive
stayer. Very soft win in a Benchmark 64 at its last start in good time and had
plenty left in the tank. The trainer is hot at the moment and that’s always a
positive.
The Final Word
For mine I’m going to put Weather With You on top.
With an AAA grade pedigree, no questions around distance, top rider in Mark
Zahra steering and master trainer in Murray Baker preparing there are plenty of
positives.
Definitely going to be saving on Astoria, Pissaro and
Greycliffe at the prices on offer.
Best of luck with all your investments in the Derby
and over the rest of Melbourne Cup week.
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